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joining us now, former director of the nsa -- >> this is not a fair fight. these are cheap dirty tactics. >> this is what they do. retired general michael hayden. he's now a principal at a global security firm. >> we were going to attack you -- >> yes, we were. >> we were going to say horrible things about you. going all glenn greenwald on you. and you bring your grandchildren and we have to be nice. >> they're adorable. >> thank you. >> we have to be extra nice. first all, you've got to be deeply disappointed that putin is allowing snowden to stay. put this into perspective for us. why don't we -- put it in, like, cold war terms. it's just -- >> well, i mean, there's an awful lot of this that has the echo of 20 and 30 years ago, doesn't it? and now you've got an american president, actually a is supplicant, to get this young man back. remember the cambridge five? quite a few of them ended up there. they ended up unhappily. they drank themselves to death. i don't wish that on young mr. snowden. but you do see echoes of that period in what's going on now. des
joining us now, former director of the nsa -- >> this is not a fair fight. these are cheap dirty tactics. >> this is what they do. retired general michael hayden. he's now a principal at a global security firm. >> we were going to attack you -- >> yes, we were. >> we were going to say horrible things about you. going all glenn greenwald on you. and you bring your grandchildren and we have to be nice. >> they're adorable. >> thank you. >> we have...
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. >> thank you, nsa. now we know americans just need to avoid this area. that. just this. >> top of the hour jnlmen and ladies. back from washington, editor of the "washington post" bob woodward, a little going on in your world. here on the set, the editor and chief of "the daily beast" tina brown who really can like show her muster in 140 characters or less. >> oh, my goodness. >> hello. >> do not get in a twitter fight. >> i love her. >> that was -- that was quite a back and forth. >> you know what that was, howie kurtz and you. >> a little fun i was having. >> please, don't ever have fun at my expense. >> you're the greatest there was, editorial of the "the huffington post" and political analyst howard fineman. good to have you all at the table this morning. a lot of news to get to, the state department is urging americans living in yemen to leave immediately. and is evacuating nonessential staff. embassies across the muslim world and in africa are closed again this morning and now there is greater insight as to why. u.s. intelligence intercepted communicatio
. >> thank you, nsa. now we know americans just need to avoid this area. that. just this. >> top of the hour jnlmen and ladies. back from washington, editor of the "washington post" bob woodward, a little going on in your world. here on the set, the editor and chief of "the daily beast" tina brown who really can like show her muster in 140 characters or less. >> oh, my goodness. >> hello. >> do not get in a twitter fight. >> i love her....
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and so the frustration is this, think about this, joe, you're the nsa. you're supposedly this all-powerful surveillance agency at this point. you seem to be able to know everything about everybody and cannot say what edward snowden took. what does that mean? they're always behind. they don't know what's coming next. and they don't know what's getting leaked next. they don't know what's coming out next, what they need to be transparent about to look like they're getting out in front of the things. it's been -- there's a fascinating little argument behind the scenes in -- between nsa and the west wing in particular, going, how come you guys can't figure out what edward snowden took. >> james carville, let's move on to politics. >> oh, no, man. me, politics? >> we got a couple polls out. talk first of all, a crazy guy that you know. >> yeah. >> terry mcauliffe. >> in the interest of disclosure i'm a big supporter of his. had a fund-raiser at my house for him. >> well, that is an absolute shock. i never saw that coming. there's a new poll out, and i'm going
and so the frustration is this, think about this, joe, you're the nsa. you're supposedly this all-powerful surveillance agency at this point. you seem to be able to know everything about everybody and cannot say what edward snowden took. what does that mean? they're always behind. they don't know what's coming next. and they don't know what's getting leaked next. they don't know what's coming out next, what they need to be transparent about to look like they're getting out in front of the...
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the ap situation, the james rosen situation, the nsa situation. it's been one crisis after another, and nine months in to his second term going on vacation, approval ratings down a bit, obama care just getting bashed around which josh is going to talk about in a little bit, they've had to put off the employer map date fmandate, con exempted themselves, the president has had a really rough nine months. this happens in second terms. this isn't just about him. but boy, what a rough nine months it has been for the white house. >> it's been a rough nine months but it doesn't happen in second terms as you mentioned and -- >> yeah. >> and then sometimes years later the second terms are remembered as not all that bad. the president, for example, is spending a lot of time himself on the implementation of obama care which he believes has to go right or has to go as well as it possibly can. and so that will be judged years from now as a success or a failure and that will say a lot about how we see this term in office. but you're right, that, you know, democr
the ap situation, the james rosen situation, the nsa situation. it's been one crisis after another, and nine months in to his second term going on vacation, approval ratings down a bit, obama care just getting bashed around which josh is going to talk about in a little bit, they've had to put off the employer map date fmandate, con exempted themselves, the president has had a really rough nine months. this happens in second terms. this isn't just about him. but boy, what a rough nine months it...
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the other comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house. >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved oddly over the past two years. >> richard is talking about the president of the united states -- >> just to be clear -- >> i'm talking about -- >> the president of the united states. >> i do agree it's odd language to use about vladimir putin. i do. but look at this guy. i mean it's not like -- >> he's looking sexy. do you think he's own human growth? >> oh, god. i just want to be sick. come on. >> russia is a spoiler. this is no longer a great power. this is a country of 143 million people and the population until the last year or so has been shrinking. a one-dimensional economy. just got oil and gas. economically and politically controlled by a handful of people. it's a spoiler. it's a spoiler in place -- >> do you agree with john mccain's critique of the president? >> that's where i disagree with john. okay. but they're still out there, got a vote in the security council, can supply arms it to the syrians. look, we don't like them but what's the best
the other comparing the nsa program to doing the dishes at the white house. >> it's odd language for a person who's actually behaved oddly over the past two years. >> richard is talking about the president of the united states -- >> just to be clear -- >> i'm talking about -- >> the president of the united states. >> i do agree it's odd language to use about vladimir putin. i do. but look at this guy. i mean it's not like -- >> he's looking sexy. do you...
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is it nsa stuff, what is it? it has become more common since the late 1990s to talk about this. obviously because the country did it, went through it in '98 with president clinton. it's not, you know, impeachment is always a political tool. there's always some political element to it, obviously, because there is no definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. what is that? every generation, every congress, whoever wants to do it can redefine it. it's a kind of crazy armageddon. and i think that it's a sign of a certain derangement as we've talked about a lot on the part of any opponent of an incumbent president to go to this because you're trying to delegitimize the president who holds the office. it happened when conservatives did it with bush. it happened with conservatives and clinton that was strong push to delegitimize the president and a lot of people did not believe deserved to be president and that's what this talk is about now. it's the deepest, most significant kind of attack that you could make on a president and it will be interesting to see if it's coburn just talkin
is it nsa stuff, what is it? it has become more common since the late 1990s to talk about this. obviously because the country did it, went through it in '98 with president clinton. it's not, you know, impeachment is always a political tool. there's always some political element to it, obviously, because there is no definition of high crimes and misdemeanors. what is that? every generation, every congress, whoever wants to do it can redefine it. it's a kind of crazy armageddon. and i think that...
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well, we have reaction to the new developments surrounding the snowden case from the former cia and nsa director, general michael hayden. on set tomorrow. up next what did you learn today? written by people just like you. no company can pay to be on angie's list, so you can trust what you're reading. angie's list is like having thousands of close neighbors, where i can go ask for personal recommendations. that's the idea. before you have any work done, check angie's list. find out why more than two million members count on angie's list. angie's list -- reviews you can trust. i love you, angie. sorry, honey. imagine what it's doing to your pores. [ female announcer ] neutrogena® oil free moisture hydrates without clogging pores. 100% free of oil, fragrance and dyes. oil free. worry free. [ female announcer ] oil free moisture. neutrogena®. [ femal♪ announcer ] oil free moisture. and now there's a new way to do the same for your dog. introducing new purina dog chow light & healthy. it's a no-sacrifices, calorie-light way to help keep him trim, with a deliciously tender and crunchy kib
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all the revelations about the nsa, the irs, these are other examples of what libertarians see as overreach by government that are getting people angry, to move to a libertarian position. another thing is generational. as you said before, the younger people are in favor of gay marriage, marijuana legalization, live and let live tolerance and that's a libertarian position as well. >> you keep talking like that and sam stein may jump parties. >> whoa. >> molly, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate it. molly's piece is on-line at the atlantic.com. al hunt, thank you so much. i forgive you for your bitter and angriness. the next time the braves come to town you may be able to take a couple. >> i doubt it. >> thanks a lot. still ahead on "morning joe," governor scott walker here. with us on set. but first, one of the best "price is right" guest entrances ever. not talking about shactman. that's next on news you can't use. so i'm checking out the jetta. 34 hwy mpg. check. no-charge scheduled maintenance. check. and here's the kicker... 0% apr for 60 months. and who got it? this guy. and who g
all the revelations about the nsa, the irs, these are other examples of what libertarians see as overreach by government that are getting people angry, to move to a libertarian position. another thing is generational. as you said before, the younger people are in favor of gay marriage, marijuana legalization, live and let live tolerance and that's a libertarian position as well. >> you keep talking like that and sam stein may jump parties. >> whoa. >> molly, thank you so much....